Saffron on the radio now!

[a.c.]

just picked up a message from Saffron, she will be on Satnam Rana's radio show imminently, talking about managing without family support in a relationship!

If you can find it, please tune in

[saffron]

I was Amar on the radio programme..theyve not allowed me to stay on unfortuantly..Id likes to have talked with others..Tahir was typical..he didn't appreciate another point of view..I hope what I had to say was heard...

If there are people out there who can contribute please phone them.....

Perhaps we can have the programme on here when its finished...

[saffron]

Our own Chweetgurl came on the programe too! Well done! Thanks ac for letting people know on here whilst the programme was on.

would be good to have your points of veiw on what was said..there was a mix of views...why o why do they always have some experts who know nothing? Time we were asked for our point of view.

I wanted to get in and phoned again about the religion perspective that Tahir clearly felt people could not cross to marry out. Ofourse they didn't call back as said ran out of time.

Satnam Rana said that she had just taken 4 weeks to convince her parents of the choice of her white partner...recently.She was running this debate....

[chweetgurl]

Hi i was Reshma on the show ! i felt so much relieved to let it all out.
And i am proud of you Saffron the way handled tahir.I did email the show about mixtogether but shame they didnt announce cause i felt sorry for many people out there who were in similar situation as ours with no help

If anyone else was on the show too kindly share your experience
If you missed the show never mind i shall be posting the link to the show once its up online shortly!

Thank you saffron for giving me the info on show  

PS: i was nervous like hell cause it was my first experience to be on air in radio

[Kitush]

Linky please! Would love to hear it.

[Spidax]

oh wow, would also like to hear, well done ladies for being on there

[chweetgurl]

Here it comes 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00rh790

Kindly listen and do share your viewpoints.

[chweetgurl]

I agree to you saffron they did have strong religious viewpoint like stick to your own stuff i am glad satnam kind of stopped in more blah blah about religion.
Nice to know she did get around her family eventually around.
Tahir was trying to portray what he wasnt in the end it came out religion topic.
I remember a caller mentioning on asian upbringing here which was spot on as well.If they are in britian they must learn to mingle with other cultures too.

[chweetgurl]

The topic of Asians marrying partner of their choice was raised on asian network due to this  news headliner .....

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/bollywood/news-interviews/Hrithiks-sister-elopes/articleshow/5696995.cms

For those of you do not know Hrithik Roshan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hrithik_Roshan) he is good looking , and an well know bollywood actor ,his sister married her boyfriend secretly and created uproar both in her Family and media when she married.

Even though he being punjabi , married, and a muslim ...the marriage was accepted by his family, they had a grand celebration ,probably he got away with it being an asian man, but its been different treatment for his sister even though she has been through a lot!like a divorce,cancer .

I am not sure if they accepted her relationship or not but now that she is married it would be nice if they came around and supported her

[Kitush]

Heh. Saffron - you were great.
Tahir - My initial thought was 'No S**t'.  Hang on...this guy is an idiot.
Chweetgirl - aw. You were great as well!

[saffron]

Im not sure where they get them from, how is an asian marriage bureau going to appreciate that exclusivity is not appreciated by all listeners on the radio?

It was very frustrating to have fairly mild approach to the topic of great concern of disowned and potential disownment...it is not taken seriously enough and certainly Chweetgurls plee to parents that they really need to think what they are doing and how it can affect children


The issue is not just for parents, its for the community.

[a.c.]

Will listen this pm after my driving lesson and respond

Well done ladies!

[a.c.]

Right, I'm listening to the show as I type, and I'm really impressed Saffron. You have put your case elegantly and powerfully. It would be hard for anyone listening to ignore the points you have made there, well done!

Chweetgurl special salute for having the courage to get on air for the first time and speak your mind. It's nerve-racking hanna? But you delivered a 'clear message' (what the presenter said!) and you have made a big difference.



I'm annoyed that you had to listen to that guy's nonsense, and listening to him I realised his voice is familiar.

'Tahir' is the same guy I've debated in the past, and he's been on other phone ins on this topic. He is basically the person they phone up to give the opposite viewpoint in these dabates, and they don't always introduce him as the head of a marriage agency.

They obviously don't get enough callers who would phone in and give that viewpoint, so thay call this guy up every time.

It gives the impression that there is a 50/50 balance in public opinion, but really that's not the case, is it? He is over-representing a less popular viewpoint.

The presenter Satnam Rana was at pains to say that the phone-in show is where these issues get discussed, but it's just not good enough any more IMO.

We don't need to debate and justify our choices every time, there should also be a show that takes our choices for granted and does not always invite the same idiots to come on air and slag off our life choices.

[saffron]

 ....Thanks for your comments ac,  they are much appreciated.

 I learnt something from this discussion which I think was totally missed out...the whole idea of choice of partner and the right of the individauls involved to expect total support from their families because it is wrong for families to deny a child they brought into this world the right to be heard and supported with a choice even if family do not agree..because it is the life of that individual that should be respected.

we need to raise the issues for men and women who are denied the suitable marriages because of family and community view of what is a good match or not..affecting thousands of lives across our country.

When couples decide on their own choice of partner, I believe they sometimes do so because they are afraid that their parents may not make that right choice for them?they can allow themselves to fall in Love.Is that something other people can relate to here? Esp those who have been in more than one mixed relationship?

Ive been thinking of this recently, I realize that couples... can... sometimes help 'falling in Love' and can help themselves not'falling in Love'...the whole idea or notion of falling in Love is world wide.... and no stranger to anyone.... even if Love is believed to happen after arranged marriages for instance.

 So it could be true that the way for human beings if left naturally to them (ie not through strict or forced arrangement) to choose a partner would be by falling for someone they are attracted to through natural individual choice and maybe chance also?

I know its another issue weve not raised on here...but I wonder if we asked this question on here of people...did they realize that they were excerising their right to choose a partner because they were afraid of what choice might have been if they had this arranged? How many of us could answerhonestly.

I believe that I had my eyes wide open when I first met my husband and gave the chance to know him,we were both looking to find lifetime partners and the colour of skin did not matter.

[chweetgurl]

Thank you for the kind appreciation AC its nice to know i made a difference
The panel of judge didnt add any value to the show to be honest they should inviting charity organisation like karma nirvana or similar setup who deal with forced marriages other issues effecting asian community they would have made more sense and probably saffron or sum1 in her situation.
Tahir flips between topics a lot i didnt understand if he was supporting the topic or against it,if i ever get to talk to him again i wont be soft on him for sure.
The arguement of people in arranged marriage is you learn to fall in love later .I have known many people in my life personally who had to compromise especially women for family honour etc.